Talk:List of highest-grossing films

Harry Potter

Does anyone have the 2024 Chinese release box office for the harry porter series back in October Fanoflionking3 (talk) 10:19, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

There is nothing about it on BOM--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 13:35, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Inflation table

Should the inflation table be updated? I checked the IMF graph and it has a 2.2 for 2024, unless that number still needs time to be updated? I don't fully understand this side of the page. DCF94 (talk) 17:19, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I tend to always leave the inflation adjustment until about halfway through the year because the price index is unstable throughout the first quarter. It's not like there is a new film waiting to enter the chart so there's no hurry to update it. Betty Logan (talk) 19:06, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Chinese Grosses

Any idea on what is the best way to get the gross for Chinese movies? At the moment, Entgroup is the source used for Ne Zha 2. However, the problem with Entgroup is that they use a specific exchange rate to obtain the dollar value for movies. So, the box office gross for Ne Zha 2 could suddenly decrease if the Yuan depreciates quickly against the dollar and Entgroup also updates the exchange rate. Box Office Mojo isn't reliable for non-Hollywood movies from what I have seen. Any other ideas? - Rajan51 (talk) 18:31, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

My suggestion is to just stick with the Entgroup source for now and keep archiving it at Wayback. If it starts going down as a result of conversion rates then we can use the archived source. It's a difficult situation to deal with, and we'll just have to manage it the best we can in lieu of a better source. The bigger problem for us right now is this, which BOM claims $1.073 billion. I am assuming this is a mistake? Unfortunately basic competence at Box Office Mojo appears to be too much to ask for these days. I can understand the gross for some obscure film being wrong, but you'd think they could at least put some effort into keeping the top 200 chart accurate... Betty Logan (talk) 19:02, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

We could do that if the gross goes down once it has finished its run. However, if the exchange rate falls suddenly when it is still making significant amounts of money every day, then our archived source won't have the additional money it makes. As unreliable as Box Office Mojo is with regard to just its Chinese gross, I think it is unlikely that the worldwide gross will go down. As far as BOM's current figure of 1.073 billion is concerned, I think that number was obtained from Entgroup earlier today. Entgroup keeps updating the numbers multiple times everyday. I think BO Mojo only gets updated once a day. That is probably it. I've even seen other outlets like Deadline do that for this movie. -Rajan51 (talk) 19:11, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

I just noticed that the link you posted from BOM was the page for The First Slam Dunk. In that case, BOM is utterly useless. They don't even have a page for Ne Zha 2. The Numbers has it at 1.046 billion, and they seem to be updating it once a day as well. If Entgroup fails due to exchange rate fluctuations, The Numbers looks like our only choice. -Rajan51 (talk) 19:25, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Jfyi, BOM has changed the box office of The First Slam Dunk from 1.046B to 246.88M. Previously, BOM marked the movie’s box office in China to be 0.9B USD, which is almost 10 times of its real box office. 209.170.75.0 (talk) 23:56, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

By the way, Entgroup's Weekly Box Office uses incorrect exchange rate (US$1 ≈ CNY 6.2305 RMB), while their Daily Box Office is correct (US$1 ≈ CNY 7.2540 RMB). Steven Sun (talk) 00:47, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Entgroup source is titled "Daily Box Office > China". I think it may not include international gross. DTPro says they include international gross, but they do not provide the exchange rate they use. Steven Sun (talk) 04:17, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Iron Man 3

• What I think should be changed (format using {{textdiff}}):

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! scope="row" | ''[[Iron Man 3]]'' | $1,214,811,252 | data-sort-value="2013-04" | 2013 | <ref name="iron man 3" group="#">{{Cite web |title=Iron Man 3 (2013) |url=https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl1532659201/ |access-date=October 28, 2013 |website=[[Box Office Mojo]] |archive-date=December 15, 2017 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171215142914/http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=ironman3.htm |url-status=live }}</ref><ref group="#" name="iron man 3 peak">{{cite web |title=All Time Worldwide Box Office |website=[[Box Office Mojo]] |url=https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140221101228/http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/ |archive-date=February 21, 2014}}</ref>

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! scope="row" | ''[[Iron Man 3]]'' | $1,266,152,644 | data-sort-value="2013-04" | 2013 | <ref name="iron man 3" group="#">{{Cite web |title=Iron Man 3 (2013) |url=https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt1300854/ |website=[[Box Office Mojo]] |url-status=live }}</ref><ref group="#" name="iron man 3 peak">{{cite web |title=All Time Worldwide Box Office |website=[[Box Office Mojo]] |url=https://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20140221101228/http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/ |archive-date=February 21, 2014}}</ref>

• Why it should be changed:

Iron Man 3 re-released in 2024

• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

GUT412454 (talk) 07:00, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

References

 Not done: See WP:BOXOFFICE#Box Office Mojo— Preceding unsigned comment added by Betty Logan (talk • contribs) 11:23, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Frozen (2013) box office numbers need to be updated

Frozen numbers are out of date - the article lists $1,290,000,000 but the Box Office Mojo website states $1,306,450,154 MisterZed (talk) 14:02, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

There are well documented problems with the figures BOM has down for Frozen. See Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_animated_films#Frozen_why?. Betty Logan (talk) 20:52, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Maybe so, but it was re-released last year, and the figures in the article don't reflect that. MisterZed (talk) 05:54, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

I have just looked it up and Box Office Mojo has no record of a re-release from last year. The figure at Box Office Mojo is derived from the original release and four re-releases between 2021–2023. The errors with those grosses are addressed at the other discussion. Betty Logan (talk) 15:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 February 2025

Ne Zha 2 $1,546,970,000 --> $1,611,760,000

Note: No need to actually add the reference as the current reference will most likely auto-update after an amount of hours & the fact the reference provided here is based on a specific date.

DRWiki1102 (talk) 08:12, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

 Done--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 18:21, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Films that have only wide releases in one market should not be counted

As this is the worldwide list, I petition that Ne Zha 2 should not be counted unless it has a wide release in one other country. As it stands, it made the vast majority of its money in only one market, and should be mostly confined to the single territory list. Better yet, it needs to reach a benchmark of, say, 100M overseas to be on this list.

This list should be about films with worldwide appeal. If you look at the list based on admissions, Chinese and Indian films aren't counted either, so neither should this. 124.197.66.230 (talk) 19:55, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

That goes against WP:WORLDVIEW. If a film grosses $1.6 billion anywhere in cinemas anywhere in the world then it meets the criteria. Betty Logan (talk) 20:06, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Your argument backs me up instead because this is now catering to only 1 market, just like how that article just complains about "White Anglo-Americans". Every film on this list has made more overseas, even films like Skyfall have multiple markets competing against the UK share of the box office. Who cares about this film aside from 1 country and box office enthusiasts, who are mostly still never going to watch this film anyway? 124.197.66.230 (talk) 20:18, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

In the top 50 there are two movies (Black Panther and Rogue One) that made more money in NA than overseas, and Ne Zha 2 was released also in Australia, New Zealand and US, with $8.3 million grossed in the first weekend, so it is not only one market--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

It's a "worldwide" list, it's all encompassing. every single movie on this list has a amalgamation of box office earnings from different markets all over, large and small, why is this even an issue I don't understand? DCF94 (talk) 21:04, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

References

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 February 2025

Ne Zha 2 $1,631,940,000 --> $1,692,100,000 Steven Sun (talk) 08:07, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

 Not done per source, that is not correct--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 16:59, 17 February 2025 (UTC)